And people want to bitch about Socialism failing in Venezuela also?
This is ALL creation of the Fascist Capitalists in America. Don't ever fall for their PROPAGANDA against Socialism and overthrows of other governments... these people have the highest form of double standards and hypocrisy.
America is controlled by Fascist Capitalists (I can't say all Capitalists are bad as clearly they are not, which shows in many of them giving support for Bitcoin cash system, speaking out against this shit American state has been doing) and it has started tens of illegal wars of aggression against anyone that is not under control of Fascists Capitalists in America.
American politics is literally no different to what Nazis did in WWII, no surprise that Nazis were in fact also funded by American bankers and did business with them even during the war (there is evidence of this, people just need to open their minds and look it up, if you need me to show you videos of these things, let me know, I will put it in comments bellow), this is what Nazis were promoting before starting WWII, saying how they are going to bring freedom to the world... America has only brought war and destruction... if American people don't prevent this and take down their government, this will escalate into another global conflict, you can be assured of that... you don't want China or Russia to come to your doorstep with missiles, as they can, you better clean up your house yourselves... or others will do it for you, and you will end up with nothing or dead in the process.
And anyone here that wants to continue to blame things on Socialism can just fuck off right back where they came from, I will call you out on your PROPAGANDA any time I see it.
 

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Ed, it's always been socialism. It's seriously dangerous.
You're unknowingly subscribed to a modern religion, and you feel the duty to evangelize... but you do it by telling everyone they are going to hell if they don't agree with you. This sums it up nicely:
"And anyone here that wants to continue to blame things on Socialism can just fuck off right back where they came from..."
Here's you spreading love and tolerance on memo:
I had to find a plugin to mute you from memo.cash so I could enjoy it again without your socialist propaganda completely filling up the posts feed. I've watched people waste hours debating you point for point only to be berated by your emotional nonsense.
My mother gave me some advice when I was a kid and I'm gonna share that with you now: You catch more bees with honey than with vinegar.
Besides the personal insults you have a hard time sticking with facts without injecting your emotions into the conversation.
American politics is literally no different to what Nazis did in WWII...
...you better clean up your house yourselves... or others will do it for you, and you will end up with nothing or dead in the process.
one inflammatory and factually incorrect statement after the next emotional and threatening statement.
If you understood anything about Libertarians (who largely pioneered this whole cryptosphere) you would know that many times you're preaching to the choir... then you go off the rails. Libertarians hate endless wars, the wasteful spending on them, the concept of 'preemptive strikes', propaganda, censorship, and corporate control over individuals. Libertarians want the best possible outcome for society just like I'm sure you do, regardless of race, religion, orientation, etc. We despise all forms of oppression, and we trust things like markets and decentralized networks a lot more than we trust institutions. We simply refuse to accept that in order to get there we need to expand government authority while diminishing individual rights, which is ultimately what Socialism does. In fact, we need the exact opposite. Less government, and absolute individual rights. I assume you're well intended, but socialism has produced some of the very worst outcomes historically.
The fact that you keep spouting 'Nazi this Nazi that' is utterly ironic. For example I agree that American society has some parallels with the Nazi Germany (check out The End of America by Naomi Wolf), it's just not for the reasons you want to hear. Nazis iterated on previous versions of socialism and used it to brainwash a nation into supporting atrocities right down the party line. Public schools and social programs were not there to benefit the poor. They were there to indoctrinate the youth and create government dependency, and that's happening here too. Kids come out of school sounding a lot like you these days and 90% of public school teachers lean hard left. It becomes a religious belief system after a while. If you can't allow that information to sink in, try listening to this woman who lived under both Nazi occupation and communist Russian occupation in Austria. She gave talks in America to warn people about socialism, and it's truly scary stuff.
I know you've probably been told it's evil information by your ideological teachers, but Ayn Rand also lived through this kind of social deterioration, which inspired her to write about individual rights, the dangers of group think, and the slow creep of Fascism.
For everyone else, I'm going to write a quick userScript later for yours that lets you voluntarily mute other users (not censorship, freedom of association).

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@Satchimo, no you stupid ignorant fuck, its not Socialism that is lying about JFK, 911, WMDs, funding Nazis in WWII, creating CIA from the Nazis that got into US after WWII, or any other war that US was in, US is right now in some 10 different nations in Africa where they are not even invited... US has 1000 military bases outside its own borders, US is lying about absolutely everything... so you can take your shit elsewhere and go back to suck some more of that Capitalist propaganda... world knows that those "rebels" in Venezeula are funded by US as well, world knows US has been imposing sanctions for a decade... US is aiding arming and selling weapons to most oppressed nations in the world, namely Israel and Saudi Arabia... and NONE OF THAT is done by Socialism.
Also for you to call political views which is actually shared by vast majority of people all over the world (to have everyone have education, health cover, etc and government that doesn't promote wars all the time the way Capitalist America has been doing) as religion, also shows that you are blatantly lying out of your ass.... you despicable ignorant lying fuck.
And yes, I wish on all the people that are ignorant when their nation fucks over other people, drops nuclear weapons on civilians, funds the fucks that waged WWII and killed 60 million people, attacking the very rise of worker's revolution which is what Communism is about... and not surprisingly these fucks were in fact funded by same fascist Capitalists from the fucking Fascist Capitalist America... to experience the very nature of war they are bringing to others, through their ignorance and what is actually religious belief that Capitalism means free markets... which is never proven to be the case in all of existence of Capitalism... all Capitalism created was extreme wealth inequality, poverty, crime, racism, homelessness, poor education and wars... endless wars... so FUCK YOU!
How fucks like you have the nerve to keep lying through your teeth like that... you will get yours sooner or later...and its not going to be pretty, what goes around comes around.
PS: Is that bitch the same type of bitch that gave speech about babies being thrown on the floor and let to die which we now all know that was a blatant lie, bitch that was daughter of Saudi ambassador? What fucking credibility do you fucks have after its proven a million times that everything the west puts out has proven to be a lie!?
You stupid fuck
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You have very elegantly helped me make my point, Ed. It's impossible talk to you without an emotional outburst of actual hate speech (which of course is your right).
Centralization = Socialism / Authoritarianism
Decentralization = Individual Liberty
Good luck with the misguided outrage
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@Satchmo, you haven't proved anything, I have every reason to be angry and pissed off, in fact, if everyone had some decency to yell out the shit that has been going on for all of your and my life, all the shit that was created by the same people, swear their lungs out... we wouldn't be in such shitty world as only way these people can get what they want is by people being silent, ignorant and complacent.
And to get to the explanation of Socialism being centralisation... you have no clue what centralisation means so let me explain it to you:
Centralisation is when small group of people or person, makes decisions for others, which is opposite to Socialism, especially when vast majority of people actually want Socialism, which means that majority get what they want, and not having Socialism, which in all of developed nations, ONLY US doesn't have, mean that will of the majority, the masses is not heard or respected... which is representation of centralisation.
Capitalism is centralised system, if you used some logic you would know that 1 owner making decisions that affect all other people that work that business, is literally most centralised decision making there is, every such business is in itself a private kingdom, where the capitalist is the king making all decisions, but I guess you will just make a point I've been making already, and ignore all these things, and keep on writing that same propaganda garbage how Socialism is shit, how it doesn't work, how its centralised, while in reality Socialism is good, it helps people, its being SOCIAL and not ANTI-SOCIAL which is what individualism is, which is what Capitalism is promoting, while in reality there are shit load of example of Socialism doing good for the people of that nation, me living in one myself, knowing first hand benefits of it, and again reality shows that Socialist nations (and no, National Socialism is not the same thing, and I already also mentioned that Nazis were funded by US and UK Bankers/Capitalist) don't attack others, Capitalist nations attack others all the fucking time... look no further then US imperialism over the last century, UK imperialism and colonialism century before it... both are Capitalist states, both are guilty of worst crimes in human history, both arm and fund terrorism... so what point were you trying to make again?
Give me a break... while I swear a lot at times, I have a good reason to do so.... as I am sick and tired of propaganda from Capitalist west... the video I put in is enough to make your hear stand up on your neck, the shit that these people talk against Iran now... talking propaganda how they are for peace and democracy and shit, while US state never actually does anything what the people want, and everything they do is what the rich Capitalists want... and they are talking this same shit after they have done the same with Iraq, Syria, Libya, Afghanistan... and how many others?
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Socialism doesn't do this (as Socialism is about health, education etc for the people, Socialism doesn't promote wars as Socialists don't benefit from them), Capitalism does this (as Capitalism is about profits, and the bigger the market share the more profits it makes, which is why they attack other nations and its people so they can increase their market share and control, put their puppets, as they have already in US governments, so they can setup business for them, and profit from sales of weapons and then profit from refugees and cheap labor they provide, and social engineering these wars create as well)
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@Ed; I've seen how much BCH you have tipped people on here so I know you're a good guy. I think, however, that you should go over Satchmo's arguments again and reconsider them.
You say it's not "socialism" doing X, Y and Z. Well, it's not "capitalism" doing those things either. Both of these are simply economic systems. They don't do anything. Governments do stuff. It's just that capitalist governments are better funded than socialist ones and so if they're corrupt, they can do bad things more readily. Hence what Satchmo was saying about needing smaller governments, not bigger ones.
As Venezuelans are finding out, socialism doesn't work as an economic system, because the economic formula is not right. It doesn't foster competition and thus slowly stagnates and dies.
This is the very same reason I am here supporting BCH (where the economic incentives are intact) versus BTC where the economic model has been messed with, because I believe that BTC will also slowly stagnate and die.
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